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Investors Underground is a premium real time chat centered financial environment designed to surround those currently in the markets whether new looking to start earning additional income, passive looking for a more active approach, or full time...

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Gambler's Paradise
This is the best lesson for new traders. Do the opposite of what this chatroom does:

1. Do not trade against a trend

2. Do not try to pick tops looking @ level 2. You will get wrecked.

3. Do not buy washouts ever.

4. Do not trade based off a 1 min chart.

I have followed many of nates trades. Usually they are unprofitable. They may eventually become profitable if you are willing to hold through a roller coaster ride. ie. Do not do this, will kill your account. Usually with these alerts, Nate will mention he got out with only a 200 or 100 dollar loss. Because he used starter size. If its a winning trade his starter size is really big but if its a losing trade his starter size is usually small. Not sure how he figures this out. I began trading on my own and making money.

IRSReporter is a good follow will open your eyes to scammers.

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It is an Alert service / Not a Trading community, Yes, sir!
***This is not in any way bashing IU or Nate or promote any other service, just personal opinions. You do not have to agree with me at all***

In my opinion - The Service is good and only SOME of the subscribers make money - AS - In order to make 'REAL" money with this service:

(1) You have to be a 'Real' Pattern Day Trader (i.e. offshore broker / workaround will not work)

(2) You have to have at least 50K cash (if not more) in the Trading account (i.e. smaller a/c will have difficult time to survive)

(3) You have to have a very fast / good broker (The ones which can execute trades fast and have 'hard to borrow' shorts available all the time)

Trust me - by watching the Trading DVD(s), reading Tweets from Nate and some Mods about all 'hot' stocks and how they 'nail' it, Watching the pics of PnL with thousands of dollars profits, looking at nightly scans each night, and joining the live chat daily - most of the 'regular' Subscribers thinks - they will start making money 'sooner or later'.... - but.... Sadly (in my opinion) for most - it may never happen, Yes, sir!

Do 'regular' Subscriber MAKE money using the service - absolutely YES!. But - Do they also LOSE money as fast as they make the money, Yes, sir!

Again, in my opinion - this is a service, in which you have to have a BIG account with solid tolerance level. You buy (or short) a stock with big chunk/size and sell it quickly with 10-20+ cents loss/profit. So, In other words, I am scalping all day by hitting and missing stocks, Yes, sir!

Below are some of my observation, which I think a lot of current or old Subscribers will agree with - but - most are either too afraid to admit (afraid to be ban at the site or bullied on Social Media) -or- 'think' that one-day they will magically start making thousands of dollars / week. So, they keep chasing the dream / stocks and keep losing their money, Yes, sir!

Too Expensive!

Subscription is too expensive per month (Standard ~ 200/m) - force you to buy yearly subscription to get discounted price (i.e. ~115/m)

~~ Wait a second - So, if I don't like the service - I am bound for the whole year? Yes, sir!

No questions asks during Market hours!

It is forbidden to ask any questions when market is open in the main/live chat. Yes this is 100 % true. You can ask the Q in Private message window to Nate -but - you may get a one-line answer back (whether it relates to your Q or not). Only Nate / Mods can post comments during Market hours - if you post a Q or make a comment - first your will be told by several members NOT to do it and if you do it again - you will be blocked.

~~Wait a second - So, I am paying ~200/m and I can not ask any question in the live chat during Market hours (i.e. the best trading community)? Yes, sir!

Most Mods do not answer during Market hours!

During trading hours most of the Mods either ignore your Private message Q -or- will have 'Do Not Disturb" message. But, they will gladly post their PnL on Twitter after market is closed.

~~Wait a second - So, I am paying ~200/m and join the best trading community - but - I can not ask any Qs during market hours with this community? Yes, sir!

Nightly scans are too vague!

You receive nightly scans (which is a good thing and some are very good picks) - but - most of the entries will have both buy/short comments, for e.g.:

$XYZ - This stock is keep going up for days - ..so may go long in the morning -or- if starts to go down - will short it....

~~Wait a second - So, I am paying ~200/m to find out - I can buy and short the same stock? Yes, sir!

No Entries or size are posted in live Chat!

Nate will never post his entry $ amount or size in the live Chat. He will say something like .. long..$XYZ... starter size...

~~Wait a second - So, I am paying ~200/m and I have to guess / chase the stock and no idea what size is good? Yes, sir!

Not suitable for part time Traders, as No alerts outside of Chat!

You have to be in the live chat (during market hours) all the time - as trades executed by Nate are 'only' posted in the live Chat.

~~Wait a second, So, I am paying ~200/m and I have to be glued to my PC - as I will not get alerts in any other way? Yes, sir!

Have you bought the DVD(s)!

Almost every scan or webiner makes several references of two DVDs (combines cost ~ 1,300) - with a soft disclaimer - that you don't have to own either DVDs.

~~Wait a second, So, I am paying ~200/m and I still have to own one or both DVDs to understand the Trading system used? Yes, sir!

No Technical Indicators used/showed in DVD!

If you buy the DVD - it contains tons of useful information and different Charts (which is a good thing) - but does not mention any Technical Indicator (Referred as 'mambo jumbo")

~~Wait a second, So I paid ~600+ for one DVD - and I will NOT learn any thing about Technical Indicators? Yes, sir!

I bought the DVD & Subscription - I am all set to be profitable - am I?

Both DVD and Subscription to Scans/Chat provides value - NO DOUBT!. But it is NOT for everyone. Almost 75-80 % traders executed are 'shorts' - which are not easy to borrow by any 'regular' broker (either you have to pay for the borrows -or- you have to have an account with the broker with at least 50K+ cash funds)

~~Wait a second, So I paid ~ 600+ for one DVD and paying ~200/m and can not make profits on most of the same traders - which best trading community is nailing - and posting the profitable PnL on Twitter, Yes, sir!

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Decent, not worth the money for what you get
Was a member for a month awhile back in January and had no success with the room. I assumed it was because I was too new and couldnt follow along very well. After being away for a few months I joined again but had the same experience. Was having a hard time following along, and most of the time nobody wants to help you. Most of the mods are complete jerks who wont answer your questions no matter what. (Not all, some of them are awesome) Nate isnt very helpful most of the time, but I understand he gets a lot of pms during the day on top of trading and is busy. Instead of answering your questions he usually tells you to get the dvds or wait for setups, even if that has little to no relevance to your question. It would be better if he just answered late rather than giving you an answer that doesnt help. It seems like there are only a handful of members consistently profiting while most fail. And because of how popular the room is, nobody wants to admit they arent profiting or they look bad for being the only person not doing well. I think what would make this service more worth while is if instead of having nate do video recaps, they should have the mods occasionally record a live trade and give some commentary on it. This way members could watch live trades like nates dvd, except from some other people. All in all not a bad room, but if you dont already know what youre doing, there is little educational value in the chat room. If you just want to chat with other traders, then sure its good.

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Bad Experience for me
This chatroom is really promoted on Twitter by Nate and others he's recruited to help promote it. I have to agree with others on this board that say most of the positive reviews on here are fake, that seems to be the case to me.

There is a group of 4 or 5 traders that actually make money in this room (out of 600+) on Twitter Nate claims these people all work as a community and help each other. This couldn't be farther from the truth. I've been trading for almost 10 years now and was looking for a community to interact with. The traders in this room are all ego maniacs that don't want you "bothering them" or "posting anything in chat".

I understand the idea of not wanting to be bothered during the trading day, its stressful and we all need to focus. That being said, don't promote your chat room like its there to help others when in fact its really not.

The trading style these guys use is pretty much all in gambling, scalping stocks that are up 20% to 100% in a day for small gains.

The successful traders in this room take small wins and huge losses. They take huge risks and huge drawdowns and have big enough accounts that they can usually ride out the losses, but every once in a while a stock comes around and wrecks these guys.

I purchased Nate's DVD's (big mistake) you might as well throw $1000 out the window, these DVD's are 100% pure hype. This chatroom is 100% pure hype, its full of 20 something traders that scalp momentum stocks for pennies.

DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY.

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Trade4Life New York, New York

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great room
So I subscribe to investorslive back in late 2013 on the monthly plan, after a month or two and once I was getting the hang of how Nate trades I went with the full year, now I am mid way into the 2nd year and thought I should leave my thoughts on the room.

#1 there is a no nonsense rule no pumping just realtime alerts. They also added the “only if you are a consistently profitable trader” clause that really quiets the noise.

#2 Nate is a active trader, you can follow an idea he gives out but you will have to listen as he will spell out the idea rather than “bot at .123 you can all follow me now” like most of the lessor newsletters do.

#3 I subscribed to investors Underground Elite (with video lessons) I highly recommend all newer traders do the same as this is soo helpful and educational if you want to learn how to trade. Also they do webinars where you can get your questions answered.

#4 Sorry this is not a room where the leaders scalp the new blood for pennies each and ever day, if that is what you are looking for try elsewhere.

#5 Last and possibly the best is this is the chatroom some of the big traders use, and once in a wile they will give an idea you better “listen” to…. I did not say you should follow.

Good Luck trading

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Terrible Experience
I'll give Nate this, he is good at marketing his forum and getting people to become affiliates to push his products and chatroom.

I firmly believe the majority of good reviews on this site are fake and left by Nate or his team.

If you want to lose all your money, follow guys in this chatroom. There is 600 traders in here and only 3 or 4 that really make money, and these traders take huge drawdowns and extreme risks.

I tracked Nate's trades over 3 months and he is absolutely not a winning trader. He occasionally has winning trades that are him and his followers pumping and creating all the volume. Ask yourself if Nate was really a successful trader why would he be selling $1000 DVD's and $200 a month coatroom subscriptions. Nate has been in trouble with the SEC for pumping stocks, (look it up yourself). His good trades he makes 10 to 50 cents on, the room is a complete joke.

If you're a new trader, this is not a room for you. If you're an experienced trader you'll probably find it hilarious how sad Nate's trading style is and how rude all the people in his room are.

I will 100% guarantee you that 90% of the reviews on this site are fake, if you join this chatroom be prepared to lose all your money.

I would think long and hard before wasting your time and money on this room.

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TraderWise New York, New York

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The best Community
I have been trading just for a couple of month, before becoming a member i blew up my account, my small account, but that was very hard for me, i was in another chat room where a lot of people talked about random topics, and the alerts were given with no set risk or guidance, so you either follow the trade as a sheep or dont use the room at all, so if you followed as a sheep you would end up crashing, to tell the truth i was getting more information from Nate´s tweets than from the chat room i was paying for, so i decided to try the room for a month with no account, just to watch how it worked out, i was more skeptical this time, but i found a community of people that talked just about relevant information on market hours, and was taking trading as it is a business, so i manage to gather some money and opened another account, but this time i got the TandemTrader and Textbook DvD´s.

More interested in learning than posting in the chat i boserved, tried to see the risk and the alerts that the mods and other posted in the room, and slowly started to grind and get disciplined, not expecting a homerun, just to slowly grind and learn for the long run.

Its been 2 month since i joined the room, just today i made 48% of my equty in profits, im keeping my losers on a leash, and what is better I ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT IM DOING AND CHOOSE MY OWN TRADES, for me that is a big step, teheres people there that will be happy to help y.

ou with questions, educated questions, they might not give you a really long answer, but if you aske right and you have an idea of what you are trying to do, the answer will be long enough for you to be gratefull.

So my recomendation for everyone that is looking to gain big money in a blink of an eye, without investing time and effort, just keep buying lotto tickets, IU is not for you, but i promise that any room is for you, if you are hoping to follow a leader dont waste your time, just give your money to someone who will work it for you for comissions, so then you´ll have somebody to blame if something goes wrong.

But if you want to be an independent, profitable, consistent trader and you are willing to work and take responsability, you´ll find in IU the best plataform form doing that.

Great people there, great traders, great community. Thanks Investros Underground for being part of my project of life.

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Very Professional
I like the service as it is not an alert service, but one where serious traders make value added observations of chart developments. They don't explain the chart or how to trade the chart, that is what the videos, blogs, and webinars are for. If you need to ask a lot of questions during the day it may be difficult to get a response when there is serious trading going on, but I don't really know since I've only asked a few questions from Nate and another moderator and they both responded with what I had already studied in the other things I mentioned above, but it was a helpful reminder. And, taking time out of their day when they are focused on trading is viewed as a privilege by me as I know that trading takes focus. I find serious professional value in this room as I'm a member or 3 other chatrooms and have not written reviews on them as I don't feel compelled to do so as here and they are somehow ranked higher on this website than IU. C'est la vie I guess. If you are a total newbie, it is best to watch and learn in this room as you will learn a lot. If you're trying to repeat the success of pro traders who have been doing it for years right out of the gate, you will not succeed anywhere. I gave a low entertainment score because this isn't a "chatty" room during market hours, it is a focused trading room. After hours, there is plenty of chat for new traders to talk. Good luck

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One of the Best
Been around IU chartroom for the last 4 years and all i can say is that anyone who do not have a plan should not been trade . this a chart for traders no people who are looking to learn it how to , if you what to learn how to trader Nate got 2 of the best DVDs on the market so you can short the learning curve , Nate is straightforward guy specially on market hours. i had a chance to be with him 3 times already and he is a humble and grounded person . I can not say one simple thing bad about his chart and some of his Moderator , some of them i know way before the start to mod. so basic what i want to say is educate yourself first then came to chart to see how we trade < you are your own boss> this is no a classroom

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Over hyped, lots of egos
I gotta agree with the trader below who lost his $50k account because of this chatroom, there is a ton of ego maniacs in this chat.

There is no question this room is over hyped and not what everyone makes it out to be. There are a few (4 or 5 out of 700ish) profitable traders in this room, but most of their trades involve taking on huge risks and huge draw downs.

From my experience Nate is not a profitable trader and makes all his money of selling chat subscriptions and DVD's.

I talked with several other members who agreed with me on everything above. The room is a bunch of 20 something year old kids with attitudes that take huge risks to make occasional huge gains.

If you're following anyone in this chat, be ready to put your entire account at risk and be ready to lose money.

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